Do we need to apply anything to the beadboard first? Hi, we want to emulsion a lounge where the previous owner had both smoked and not redecorated in about 40 years. Can you tell me the most effective way to remove this? I suppose it leaves the original sound foundation in good order. It happens to the best of us – sometimes. University of Kentucky: Cooperative Extension Services, Selecting Wall Coverings. My only guesses are the new paint was a non vinyl and it is coming off when damp and wiped, or the original paint was shiney and it the new paint is peeling off, this could be because the surface wasn’t prepared. I’m renovating an old Victorian cottage that has thick lining paper on the living room ceiling which has several ripples/ long bubbles. You can get thick lining paper (2000 gauge), this may lose some of the imperfections. I think the lining paper is so that should you want to paper later,you can always get the old one off.Much more difficult if you have painted straight onto the plaster as the wallpaper paste will stick to the paint,not the plaster and peel off. The paint has been on for 2 months now so is completely dry despite the number of coats! You can paint it first with a cheaper paint to seal it first then go over it with the colour. And yet….. the ceiling paper is sound but i’m not keen about stripping it off as i’m not sure of the state of the ceiling underneath (it does look sound though)- i think it may be lathe and plaster and i dont want to open up a can of worms when i strip the paper off! Wallpaper paste dries within 24 hours in dry conditions, but takes longer if the room is damp or cold. We have no damp or ventilation issues in the house, could the paper or paint be faulty as it appears to be on he surface not from behind the paper. Before you rush out and buy lining paper and hang it there are a few things you should know first, lining paper can shrink when it dries, this isn’t too much of a problem if you are wallpapering over it as long as the gaps are small. Otherwise I suggest you call a professional paper hanger for any sort of job of this magnitude. How can I be sure it’s not backing paper? I would buy new paste. I’m not sure what you mean by feels smooth, do you mean glossed? I have been advised NOT to just paint over the lining paper as it will react with the glue and make the paper bubble. If the paint is ‘powdery’ then the paste wouldn’t of adhered to the wall well. I would think most likely it is something behind the lining paper. It looks fantastic. Thanks. Do I use some sort of primer first? Don’t over soak the wall otherwise the lining paper may start to lift. As for changing colour, this post will answer that for you Tips for changing the colour of emulsion. End result is that we have a number of 4 inch vertical and diagonal areas of exposed plaster whilst remaining areas of walls have pretty sound lining paper. Today, I emulsioned it and some of the seams have opened up. Do we have to apply sizing after painting, or can we paste and wallpaper directly onto the painted liner paper? Zinsser make a paint for this called wallpaper cover up, it is designed specifically for this. But if not, with a little wallpaper preparation and a few tricks, you can be left with a finished result that you… Hi, really useful sight, thanks for the advice. After stripping paper from the wall and painting it the walls look shadowy which could be old adhesive showing through.would using lining paper and painting it work or could the old adhesive cause problems. The finish is excellent and the wallpaper is very firmly on the wall. Sadley the best way is to gently soak the paper and peel or scrape off. Now i know that they can be papered as i have just taken woodchip paper off of them, what i am wondering though is can I use a water based paint on lining paper without it looking tacky or will the paper just rip as I paint it.. also any other advice would be great. It is a dulux matt paint in light and space range, and we have another from the range in another room which is totally fine. @Sue So the worse your old walls are the thicker the lining paper needs to be. Thanks graham . If you scrape some lining paper off but not all of it there will be different levels on the wall and will show? before I try a third coat, any tips. This only seems a problem since being lined as maybe the paper is prone to absorb any damp? It is good quality paste purchased with some harlequin paper as it was advised to use the “proper” stuff Question is I’m just about to line some other walls with lining paper, can I use this paste or would you advise I buy new? This actually answered my problem, thank you! Can you paint over wallpaper liner? The ceiling is very, very dirty but extremely well papered with lining paper. Paste the wall lining paper is a key preparation step to accomplish a smoother finish to your newly decorated walls. Yes it could show, plaster has a very smooth finish whereas lining paper has a slight texture. Let the lining paper dry out for approximately 24 hours and then you can start to hang your wallpaper. Is it OK to use surplus external satin white paint for wood and metal on an inside(porch) brick wall, or is it best to use matt emulsion (need to buy). I tend to use the 1000-1200 The point of using lining paper is to create a better wall surface on which to paint. Thanks for the reply though. The walls themselves appear smooth. You can paint over previously painted lining paper, where tape etc has been removed and torn the paper use a fine surface filler to fill these in, rub (gently) smooth and then paint. It is well stuck down and smooth. We will be replacing windows in a few months but am looking for a temporary measure to cover this. I am looking to redecorate a room that has lining paper. as I stripped and varnished all the woodwork 1996 ( 500 hours kitchen and bathroom alone) I always mask up first and this makes it cheap and easy, they also sell a pasting brush for 1 pound, 8 pounds in Wickes !!. Have you decided on the thickness of lining paper, I nearly always use 1400 grade / gauge. The paper is a 1000 weight standard lining paper and has been hung over a skimmed wall which was treated with a diluted solution of wallpaper paste. 2) The rest of the living room is painted on lining paper. I painted this as a ‘test,. Two good coats of quality paint should be enough to cover lining paper. Cross-lining is where the lining paper is hung horizontally rather the vertically like traditional wallpaper, normally if you are going to be emulsioning over the lining paper you could hang it as you would wallpaper, vertically. The seal has gone on my double glazing causing moisture to run down lining paper causing a horrible water stain. I just want to see the walls looking a bit better, that’s all. We’ve removed two walls of paneling and scraped off the very old wallpaper. The best way is to use a sander on the walls once they are dry. I would use a small foam sanding block that wasn’t too abrasive to rub down the filler. It would be better to line the second paper in the other direction. Hi, If it’s still sound when you have removed paste allow the wall and lining paper to dry fully for 24-48 hours before emulsioning. I am wanting to use lining paper in my hallway, stairwell etc. Tips for changing the colour of emulsion. My wife has always used quite a small brush for emulsioning and never had problems before but this time even and after 3 coats, (one of a colour selected in error and 2 of the correct colour) there is significant shading. It sounds like there wasn’t enough paste on the joints, or they simply dried out. You can seal the plaster with a watered down PVA solution, or you can use a non vinyl emulsion then once dry a light rub down before wallpapering. hi we painted the kitchen ceiling. In this article, we’re going to look at how you can hang and paint lining paper to achieve the same finish as a newly plastered wall. You can also use lining paper to give yourself a sound base to work from. The reception rooms are back to the old lime plaster, this is a little uneven and rough, is it best to replaster or just line over this? I prefer to paste the paper myself even for paste the wall, but it’s personal preference really. Sometimes the paint you apply may crack, I say sometimes as this has only happened twice to me in 20 years, you can key the surface to remove some of the sheen before painting. I will try to paint just those areas, let it dry and then apply another coat. I’m about to decorate my bedroom walls which have previously had vinyl silk painted on them (direct onto plastered walls). Take a knife, carefully lift the edge of the paper, apply overlap/border adhesive to wall and underside of paper, allow to soften paper and stick back, squeeze out excess adhesive with scraper, wipe of excess. I never paper over paper. with a sugar soap solution to help key the new paint. Let the lining paper dry out for approximately 24 hours and then you can start to hang your wallpaper. Some of the old hand prints used to tell you to cross line and then seal the lining paper with hot glue size before hanging, used to love using that stuff. Brushes can leave it patchy, stripes and brush marks. I would really appreciate any help or advice you can offer, thank you! I don’t know what the paint is on the lining paper but it must be at least 40 years old. We’ve just moved into a flat which has textured Anaglypta,we cannot strip it because it’s stuck onto plasterboard. As for tips on hanging lining paper here are some links you may find helpful: How to wallpaper. ? If the finish looks patchy try rollering in a random way, for example roller a letter ‘W’, sometimes if you roller in straight horizontal and vertical lines it can show as ‘blocky’. And am wondering whether there is any more I need to do before putting up lining paper which I will be painting after? Obviously any moisture is going to lift the Rock lining,I suspect. I have just started to paint over it and it is showing up some air bubbles. Will there be an obvious join? Many thanks. It’s depends I guess, how much it will be used, it could get scratched a lot by the chalk? Wallpapering around a window or door reveal. Use the information below and you will nail it! Wait until the paper and paint has fully dried out, such as overnight. would Acrylic paint be best for the first coat on the paper and filler ?. You allowed each length of wallpaper its proper soaking time after applying the paste, before hanging on the wall. 2. Can you advise?..any forseeable problems??. About ten years ago it was rare to hang wallpaper but very common to remove wallpaper and line the walls and emulsion them. Please can you advise how to sort this problem out? I cleaned them all with sugar soap and painted with emulsion and while it does look a lot nicer there are still visible marks coming through the paint. Use the information below and you will nail it! Covering cracks, but does it also keep a room slightly warmer? When will we be able to paint the walls and will it affect it if we paint over the wet parts. I have been over it now about four times and although it looks perfect when viewed face on, nothing is making any difference when looked at on entrance. It is hard to say without seeing it, but firstly try and resolve the cause of the problem, such as any damp, mould etc. Can still see a few bumps etc… was told to put glue over the lining paper before painting as this would give a better finish… any feedback please? i was wondering about your opinon of plaster paint. I believe it is ok to wallpaper over emulsion painted lining paper but can you size the lining paper to help slide when hanging the new wallpaper. My question is can I hang the new paper directly on the the plastered wall or do I need to primer and line the wall first, I want to finish the job this week as I have guest coming for the weekend and also work full time. Without seeing it, it is hard to pinpoint the problem. You could cut lining paper around the bump and remove to see what it is, then rectify it and fill over it before painting. Why do you think this has happened? Should I: Lining paper comes in grades. Thank you. It sounds as if the filler may of been hard to rub down, some pre mixed fillers are, I tend to use powder fillers so I can mix up the consistency I require, in the case of filling gaps in lining paper a fairly loose mix so it is easy to rub down. Also, when you emulsion the walls these areas will take longer to dry out. Thick lining paper … Paint the second layer in the same way as the first. Once dry there shouldn’t be any problems. The benefits of hanging lining paper far outweigh the work involved, especially if you are going to hang expensive or embossed wallcoverings. Any ideas? Soak the paper well, leave it for a while, then soak it again. Hello. The texture will more than likely show through the wallpaper. Yes I don’t see why not. Hi. You could feather them out with a filler then gently rub down, but again be careful about scratching the paper. Thank you so much for replying. what is the best type of paint to use.. matt or silk? It sounds as if you have done the prep work, you do not need to sugar soap the walls, as you have rubbed them down just make sure there isn’t any rough bits left, then dust the walls down and hang the lining paper. You may also consider hanging the lining paper horizontally, or cross lining as it’s known. We have had the master bedroom, bathroom, hallway, landing, stairs and reception rooms stripped of their wall paper, and have found mixed things underneath. How would I go about this? Trying to patch with strips of lining paper would be tricky and more than likely show. Also, hanging lining paper will give you plenty of practice, should you want to use a more expensive and decorative wallpaper as your top layer. ... Leave for a good 24 hours to dry out then you can paint it. So i have moved into my first flat and am going to paint the walls, when I started stripping the walls I found that four (2bedroom, 2sitting room) are brick walls. Hi, I have just had a bedroom decorated, with matt paint over old lining paper. The company will be stocking it in the next week or so : My Paintbrush. If you fill over the paper you aren’t really sorting out the issue. If you do remove it and paint just the plaster with no lining paper ensure you get as much paste off as possible. In this article, we’re going to look at how you can hang and paint lining paper to achieve the same finish as a newly plastered wall. It happens to the best of us – sometimes. You could line the walls and then paper over them, or give the walls another rubdown to ensure they are smooth, then paint the walls again. Using lining paper this way removes the cost and mess associated with hiring a plasterer (tips for vetting building contractors) or plastering a wall yourself. As I’ve hated the vinyl since I put it up last year I’ve just decided to remove it and paint the wall instead. As you say you have been over it four times it certainly isn’t a lack of paint that is the issue. I’m thinking sugar soap, but would I need to rinse it off before painting? I have scraped of most of the peeling paint as far as it is peeling but I am now left with a slight uneven surface. Can it be repaired or do I need to strip it all off? Is there a quick and effective way to remove this before painting rather than the labourious method of gently scraping that we are doing right now? Listed under Blog, products, suppliers Posted Jan 10 2011. Mix the recommended paste according to the instructions on the label, to ensure you have the right consistency. When you notice gaps between your wallpaper seams, you can use paint a color that is similar to the one on the wallpaper and cover small gaps. I have removed the old lining paper with a steamer but underneath is paint which has been done several coats. I was wondering why after I just painted lining paper with emulsion it started the peel off immediately at the slightest touch. Yep, some times apply a weak coat of paste to my lining paper, but not for every job. Do we need to apply anything else to the painted liner before wallpapering? We want to emulsion the walls but know that these ridges will still be visible. so you can see the border edge top and bottom all the way along. I was told I can cover the walls with lining paper and paint over it and that’s job done. The best option would be to strip wallpaper and border and then line the walls and emulsion. Sometimes it will shrink back as the emulsion dries. Under optimal conditions, we can tape after maybe 4 hours and do second coats in the same day. My question is – do I take the lining paper off and be faced with poor walls underneath and have to re-plaster, or do I leave the lining paper up and re-stick down the bits that have come away at the seams? Hi, I have some ready mixed wallpaper paste left over in a tub from about 10 months ago. I’ve just lined a room that was previously painted with a gloss type paint in years past with lining paper (vertically) ahead of emulsion. For textured lining paper, use a medium-nap paint roller for better coverage. Hi, hope you can help. What happens when I want to redecorate? As I see it, you have two choices, use a power filler and re-fill the gaps and over the scratches in the paper, then rub down and paint (the filler may still show). I’m happy to paint over this but it is covered in gunky and sticky old wallpaper paste. how can i get the walls smooth, do i sand the plaster down or just put a heavy grade lining paper on and paint over it….. Do you know the reason for this? Its our first DIY ….lining paper for the kitchen…it has taken us ages to prep the old bumpy holey walls and hang the lining paper…started to emulsion today and the paper is bubbling! Thank you. You can also use a special glue size called wallpaper primer/sealer to prime the walls. It’s hard to say not seeing it for myself. Paint the main area of the wall with a 5- to 6-inch paintbrush or a paint roller. If the current lining paper is generally OK apart from just a few minor areas of lifting, I would stick them back first, if this doesn’t work you can always strip the walls if you aren’t happy with the sticking back. From 600 grade which is like wet toilet paper when it’s pasted and falls apart in your hands, to 1500 grade and thicker which is wonderful stuff, goes on a treat and masks quite a lot of otherwise poor surfaces. It sounds as if you have done all that you can for a good finish. If so what sort of adhesive should I use? We have used a scraper to remove the paint that was flaking, but where the paint is still sound there is a ‘ridge’ between the remaining paint and the bare plasterboard. Many thanks! You shouldn’t need to hang lining paper to cover marks. My walls have the odd scratch and holes on them so i filled these. If the walls are smooth and in good condition you can simply wallpaper over the top of the emulsioned wall. There is also the possibility of the paint coming off as it will sit on top of the paper rather than soak in. Just asking I’ve taken old wallpaper off and it left the lining on wall can I put new wall paper on ?? The key consideration for achieving an excellent paint finish on lining paper is to ensure the paper is properly hung before you paint it. There are also fixing holes in the wall where the old towel radiator was. There isn’t any need for a primer but you could apply paste to any filler used to seal this. also one wall is very dark purple and i am wanting to paint with a lighter colour, will a light paint cover a dark paing underneath or should i do something like paint it white first? Hi, i have stripped wallpaper in bedroom the plaster is old dry and flakey what should i use to treat the walls before papering. Some of the paint has flacked off especially where the shower screen is going to placed and the walls are flaky in places.. Hi can you hang lining paper over lining paper horizontal twice ? Do you think that a second coat of paint will cover up, or should I just bite the bullet and re-paper? Do you need to go over existing paper with lining paper, can you not just re-paint over them? Or perhaps some loose material on the wall? Can you advise please. TOMATO. I have just stripped wallpaper from my lounge walls which has left rough plaster and flaking emulsion paint or bare plaster. Paint the wall with a second coat of paint to achieve an even and longer-lasting finish. If you get some border / overlap adhesive, apply it to the lifted paper, allow the paper to soften, stick back the paper, wipe excess paste off, allow to dry, paint. I have removed old wallpaper from walls that have had wallpaper lining applied to the walls. which direction should I hang lining paper as this is a chimney breast wall which I have filled and sanded ( still not perfect) Thanks in advance for help. The bathroom walls are back to a mixture of original lime plaster and then modern plaster that has ben skimmed in the bottom half leaving a ledge, I do not want to put lining paper in the bathroom, what is the best way to prep the walls before painting to get an even finish? We thought the 4 days would be long enough to leave it but clearly not! As you say the lining paper is emulsioned this should make it easier to remove the wallpaper without removing the lining paper at the same time, as the emulsion will (for a short time) act as a seal from the water used to remove the wallpaper. Clean paintbrushes and rollers after you finish painting on each layer to prevent them from drying out. I don’t really want to strip off the lining paper and have to tackle all the glue underneath etc…. Opening or poor seams occur when the seams of the wallpaper spring or open during the drying process. How to mix wallpaper paste. Whats the ideal bathroom paint to put on linning paper. if i paint over lining paper,will i still see the joins? Advice please. But it's more likely emulsion, so I'd probably just 'dust it down' or if it's a silk finish I might wipe it down (not soak!) The only thing I can think of is adhesive on the surface of the lining paper before painting? I’m no fan of wallpapering as it is and have never used PTW before. I’ve had to do this many times. The only way to fix this issue if the above doesn’t work is to take a very sharp knife and to make a slit in the paper and by using a small paint brush get some paste onto the back of the paper and then push it back against the wall. Opening or poor seams occur when the seams of the wallpaper spring or open during the drying process. Thanks. If you go the lining paper route or the smooth over route you could use a cheap white emulsion to seal the walls before apply 2-3 coats of bathroom paint, as this can be expensive. The lineing paper is peeling from the top and all the wall feel like I can just ripe it off really easily. Glad you like the site, and will share with your friends . Take a 1/2 inch paint brush, easy the lifted paper away from the wall, a scraper may be useful for this, apply the border adhesive behind the paper and on the wall, leave for a minute or two, then gently press the paper back to the wall with a sponge and ease any excess adhesive out. @Tina I am actually trying to save money, so I am looking the easy way out. Then fill the gap with a fine surface filler. We papered the room on Monday and thought it would be ok to paint on today, now the paper hasnt started to peel off the walls but parts of it have started to bubble. Are they air bubbles?
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